Tuesday, August 17, 2010
John,
You’ve given me a lot to work with here so please, bear with me. I’ve taken your 4 points and will attempt to respond in point form as well.
1. one single pro-American Muslim. I consider the existence of such a person and fundamental to the acceptance of your argument. That being said, you'd need enough pro-American Muslims in the general area of downtown NYC to justify the Mosque.
The area is already a large Muslim cultural center that naturally wishes to expand. A mosque has existed for at least 20 years on Warren Street between Broadway and Church. It's moving south 2 blocks and west 1 block. That's all. (Just check out the number of Halal shops-on google earth. Mmmm Donairs!!). The building is a piece of very convenient real estate that happens to be large enough for their plans.
2. What would the response be if someone opened a Christian church in Mecca?
Really? What you’re essentially saying by that statement, is that “We won’t play nice until Saudi Arabia plays nice. That’s hardly taking the high-road or leading by example, something America used to do very well.
But let’s take a look at some other ‘insensitive, or passive-aggressive structures.
The McDonalds in Hiroshima near their ’Ground Zero’
(The polish crosses in Auschwitz)
The Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbour:
An "eternal flame" for the Chicago fire
3. I think the desire to put a mosque in down town NYC in spitting distance of ground zero is an act of insensitivity at best, and an act of outright in your face aggression at worst. I don't think it is a good idea to communicate to those Muslims around who actually do hate us that they have one.
This really has to do with perception. I would agree that a Massive Mosque with Minarets on the ashes of the WTC is distasteful. That is not what this is. Its a community centre that will include a gymnasium, concert hall, swimming pool, restaurant, and yes, a prayer room. The site wasn't chosen to create controversy, it was chosen b/c the Burlington Coat Factory closed a number of years ago.
4. How many Imams spoke up in public settings at all? Did any go to the White House and knock on them President Bushes door and ask to take the platform with him to declare that this was a terrible act and they would work hard to help fight these evil crazies who have distorted the Quran. Not one Muslim stand up and call it an act of evil and say this was not the will of Allah.
“Where was the Muslim outrage:
Muslim outrage:
it was there, but not reported in US Media who essentially said ‘We don’t want to hear from Muslims right now… we’re hurting’.
4. To you and to them I say - build your Mosque somewhere else.
Where would be acceptable? Will a mosque go unopposed if it were 5 blocks instead of 2? 10 blocks? . How about Murfreesboro, Tenn.? Temecula, Calif.? Sheboygan, Wis.? These are nowhere near ground zero, yet protesters are being invited to cook bacon, burn copies of the Koran, and shout down opponents. All while carrying sign s that say “We came unarmed (This time)” That’s not being insensitive, that’s downright hateful!!
How many Muslims have been beaten, killed, had their homes, businesses, and religious houses burned or vandalized in America? Simply for being Muslim? How much mis-directed fear and hatred is acceptable?
As to your challenge to find “one single pro-American Muslim. I consider the existence of such a person and fundamental to the acceptance of your argument. “
There ARE Muslims who love America. Their blood is just as red as any other American. Here are a few who you might want to argue with on if they deserve to freely practice:
Here
Here
Here
Here
Go on. Tell them and their families how "insensitive" they are.
You’ve given me a lot to work with here so please, bear with me. I’ve taken your 4 points and will attempt to respond in point form as well.
1. one single pro-American Muslim. I consider the existence of such a person and fundamental to the acceptance of your argument. That being said, you'd need enough pro-American Muslims in the general area of downtown NYC to justify the Mosque.
The area is already a large Muslim cultural center that naturally wishes to expand. A mosque has existed for at least 20 years on Warren Street between Broadway and Church. It's moving south 2 blocks and west 1 block. That's all. (Just check out the number of Halal shops-on google earth. Mmmm Donairs!!). The building is a piece of very convenient real estate that happens to be large enough for their plans.
2. What would the response be if someone opened a Christian church in Mecca?
Really? What you’re essentially saying by that statement, is that “We won’t play nice until Saudi Arabia plays nice. That’s hardly taking the high-road or leading by example, something America used to do very well.
But let’s take a look at some other ‘insensitive, or passive-aggressive structures.
The McDonalds in Hiroshima near their ’Ground Zero’
(The polish crosses in Auschwitz)
The Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbour:
An "eternal flame" for the Chicago fire
3. I think the desire to put a mosque in down town NYC in spitting distance of ground zero is an act of insensitivity at best, and an act of outright in your face aggression at worst. I don't think it is a good idea to communicate to those Muslims around who actually do hate us that they have one.
This really has to do with perception. I would agree that a Massive Mosque with Minarets on the ashes of the WTC is distasteful. That is not what this is. Its a community centre that will include a gymnasium, concert hall, swimming pool, restaurant, and yes, a prayer room. The site wasn't chosen to create controversy, it was chosen b/c the Burlington Coat Factory closed a number of years ago.
4. How many Imams spoke up in public settings at all? Did any go to the White House and knock on them President Bushes door and ask to take the platform with him to declare that this was a terrible act and they would work hard to help fight these evil crazies who have distorted the Quran. Not one Muslim stand up and call it an act of evil and say this was not the will of Allah.
“Where was the Muslim outrage:
Muslim outrage:
it was there, but not reported in US Media who essentially said ‘We don’t want to hear from Muslims right now… we’re hurting’.
4. To you and to them I say - build your Mosque somewhere else.
Where would be acceptable? Will a mosque go unopposed if it were 5 blocks instead of 2? 10 blocks? . How about Murfreesboro, Tenn.? Temecula, Calif.? Sheboygan, Wis.? These are nowhere near ground zero, yet protesters are being invited to cook bacon, burn copies of the Koran, and shout down opponents. All while carrying sign s that say “We came unarmed (This time)” That’s not being insensitive, that’s downright hateful!!
How many Muslims have been beaten, killed, had their homes, businesses, and religious houses burned or vandalized in America? Simply for being Muslim? How much mis-directed fear and hatred is acceptable?
As to your challenge to find “one single pro-American Muslim. I consider the existence of such a person and fundamental to the acceptance of your argument. “
There ARE Muslims who love America. Their blood is just as red as any other American. Here are a few who you might want to argue with on if they deserve to freely practice:
Here
Here
Here
Here
Go on. Tell them and their families how "insensitive" they are.
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